I bought the board new of a mate for the price of 20$us. yes thats right, 20 bucks, it had never been used. Becasue of the horrible snow this year (2000-2001) there are loads of rocks out there and i dont feel like wrecking my split board at he local slopes (the backcountry is to unstable and shitty so far) so for a rock board this is the greatest thing on the planet. i can run it on the rocks and trees with a satisfiying scratch sound and not worry about destroying some major investment. sure it doesnt ride well and its slow but its bomber and it cost me next ot nothing! it doesnt have any of the technical features that make good boards light and responsive but who cares, i ride it to death and have my pristine real boards for when the riding is decent. get a cheap board to take the strain off your real stuff. i recomend this board for this reason alone.Cheers

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