i didn't really get the best setup when i bought it. i'm pretty much a beginner and my 1st time out my bindings were oversized. i swapped bindings and the 2nd time out the ride was much better but i should've adjusted the binding angles a bit. anyways, the board carves good but i as a beginner it was tough to go from front to back edge as easy as the rentals i used before (limited 157's with less of a sidecut). i think it was a bit short for me as well and it definitely felt less stable than the rentals i used before. i'm gonna try the liquid venture (straighter sidecut, longer board, and the peeing man logo is cool!). damn it's hard to find info on these boards. i've spent 3 hrs on the net and still can't tell which board is better quality!

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